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		<title>Comment on Chapter 4 &#8216;How to have a good fight&#8217; by markharms</title>
		<link>http://lifegroups.wordpress.com/2006/05/04/chapter-4-how-to-have-a-good-fight/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>markharms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 18:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The kindness aspect comes more naturally to me. However, over the years I have grown in my ability to confront. That growth has come in LifeGroups as well as my time in the corporate world managing people. Healthy conflict resolution can actually be very invigorating and unhealthy conflict is one of the most draining things I have experienced.

Has anyone ever pulled out a gun in your LifeGroup? Well at one of my LifeGroup meetings someone had brought a gun to give to someone else. The funny part was that the person held the gun in their lap during our entire LifeGroup gathering. I was very careful in confronting the gun holder It was all very docile and actually a great story that we laugh about now.

On a more serious note, one group I was a part of had a person who needed a job. The problem was his reluctance in actually finding one. We had a one-on-one meeting and I was able to challenge him about doing his part in climbing out of the hole he was in and not depending on the group to do it all. Our next group meeting was a little tense when it was obvious that he had not done anything and still expected our help. One guy blurted the obvious out ‘do something about it yourself’. He didn’t say it with a smile on his face either. We clearly communicated with him and told him we were there to encourage and help after he started carrying his own weight.  It allowed the oneness in the group to grow.

Have you every told anyone to zip it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The kindness aspect comes more naturally to me. However, over the years I have grown in my ability to confront. That growth has come in LifeGroups as well as my time in the corporate world managing people. Healthy conflict resolution can actually be very invigorating and unhealthy conflict is one of the most draining things I have experienced.</p>
<p>Has anyone ever pulled out a gun in your LifeGroup? Well at one of my LifeGroup meetings someone had brought a gun to give to someone else. The funny part was that the person held the gun in their lap during our entire LifeGroup gathering. I was very careful in confronting the gun holder It was all very docile and actually a great story that we laugh about now.</p>
<p>On a more serious note, one group I was a part of had a person who needed a job. The problem was his reluctance in actually finding one. We had a one-on-one meeting and I was able to challenge him about doing his part in climbing out of the hole he was in and not depending on the group to do it all. Our next group meeting was a little tense when it was obvious that he had not done anything and still expected our help. One guy blurted the obvious out ‘do something about it yourself’. He didn’t say it with a smile on his face either. We clearly communicated with him and told him we were there to encourage and help after he started carrying his own weight.  It allowed the oneness in the group to grow.</p>
<p>Have you every told anyone to zip it?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Walking the Small Group Tightrope-Chapter 3 Meeting the Relational Challenge by tammydillon</title>
		<link>http://lifegroups.wordpress.com/2006/04/26/walking-the-small-group-tightrope-chapter-3-meeting-the-relational-challenge/#comment-14</link>
		<dc:creator>tammydillon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2006 16:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BDQ 1: Refrigerator rights is an interesting analogy to LifeGroup relationships. I would say that there are some in our Group who have opened up to various members with extremely personal issues and struggles. As that has happened I&#8217;ve seen some of the Group move toward a new level of intimacy. Even one member categorized our last LifeGroup gathering comparing it to being with &#8220;family&#8221;. I thought that was HUGE!!!
Yet, I would say that there are others in our Group are still on the outside looking in. That&#8217;s where the challenge lies. To some degree it seems that people have to choose or desire to grow with the Group.

With respect to myself, I don&#8217;t have a problem with self-disclosure. That has always seemed natural for me. In fact if anything, sometimes there might need to be a little more editing before I speak. Restraint might be a practice that I need to work on.

BDQ 2: Ok, this is the tough one for me. I don&#8217;t like confrontation. Actually that&#8217;s even an understatement. However, as I&#8217;ve wrestled with my own personal relationships God has taught me that conflict can be good----when the truth is spoken in love. Notice the &#8220;love&#8221; part of that equation. I loved the author&#8217;s story of the church member who asked him about his opinion regarding the member&#8217;s desire to serve in a certain leadership role. It&#8217;s on page 79 &amp; 80&#160;in the book. I love the way the author spoke the truth even when he knew that it would be difficult for the person to receive. However, in doing so, he communicated honesty, authenticity, concern and unconditional love to this individual. That&#8217;s a conversation that ultimately had the potential of leading to transformation in that member&#8217;s life. That&#8217;s a model that I would like to put into practice. It&#8217;s as if the author spoke to the member in words that Jesus would use&#8212;full of grace, compassion and understanding.
For myself, I&#8217;d like to think that I have a teachable spirit and am willing to accept criticism, but without question it&#8217;s always a little difficult to hear.

BDQ 3: I think my LifeGroup does well at most of the 5 practices. I think we could use some work in the area of admonishment (to me the hardest) and with a portion of our Group we need to work at the need to &#8220;know and be known&#8221;. In order to work on growing our relationships with one another, the &#8220;know and be known&#8221;, we are going to put into practice meeting once a month or so, at a members house on a weekend night, breaking bread together, doing our study and just hanging out. Since our Group meets on Sundays we need to move out of the Sunday School mode and more into the &#8220;doing life together&#8221; mode. One practice that we&#8217;ve adopted for the last 5 months is that we keep an ongoing prayer list and it is emailed out to each member at the beginning of each week. It&#8217;s bonded our Group together spiritually and helped us to see God&#8217;s amazing provision in our lives. Now that&#8217;s something to celebrate!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BDQ 1: Refrigerator rights is an interesting analogy to LifeGroup relationships. I would say that there are some in our Group who have opened up to various members with extremely personal issues and struggles. As that has happened I&rsquo;ve seen some of the Group move toward a new level of intimacy. Even one member categorized our last LifeGroup gathering comparing it to being with &ldquo;family&rdquo;. I thought that was HUGE!!!<br />
Yet, I would say that there are others in our Group are still on the outside looking in. That&rsquo;s where the challenge lies. To some degree it seems that people have to choose or desire to grow with the Group.</p>
<p>With respect to myself, I don&rsquo;t have a problem with self-disclosure. That has always seemed natural for me. In fact if anything, sometimes there might need to be a little more editing before I speak. Restraint might be a practice that I need to work on.</p>
<p>BDQ 2: Ok, this is the tough one for me. I don&rsquo;t like confrontation. Actually that&rsquo;s even an understatement. However, as I&rsquo;ve wrestled with my own personal relationships God has taught me that conflict can be good&#8212;-when the truth is spoken in love. Notice the &ldquo;love&rdquo; part of that equation. I loved the author&rsquo;s story of the church member who asked him about his opinion regarding the member&rsquo;s desire to serve in a certain leadership role. It&rsquo;s on page 79 &amp; 80&nbsp;in the book. I love the way the author spoke the truth even when he knew that it would be difficult for the person to receive. However, in doing so, he communicated honesty, authenticity, concern and unconditional love to this individual. That&rsquo;s a conversation that ultimately had the potential of leading to transformation in that member&rsquo;s life. That&rsquo;s a model that I would like to put into practice. It&rsquo;s as if the author spoke to the member in words that Jesus would use&mdash;full of grace, compassion and understanding.<br />
For myself, I&rsquo;d like to think that I have a teachable spirit and am willing to accept criticism, but without question it&rsquo;s always a little difficult to hear.</p>
<p>BDQ 3: I think my LifeGroup does well at most of the 5 practices. I think we could use some work in the area of admonishment (to me the hardest) and with a portion of our Group we need to work at the need to &ldquo;know and be known&rdquo;. In order to work on growing our relationships with one another, the &ldquo;know and be known&rdquo;, we are going to put into practice meeting once a month or so, at a members house on a weekend night, breaking bread together, doing our study and just hanging out. Since our Group meets on Sundays we need to move out of the Sunday School mode and more into the &ldquo;doing life together&rdquo; mode. One practice that we&rsquo;ve adopted for the last 5 months is that we keep an ongoing prayer list and it is emailed out to each member at the beginning of each week. It&rsquo;s bonded our Group together spiritually and helped us to see God&rsquo;s amazing provision in our lives. Now that&rsquo;s something to celebrate!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Walking the Small Group Tightrope &#8211; Chapter 2 &#8211; The Development Challenge by Antwuan</title>
		<link>http://lifegroups.wordpress.com/2006/04/07/walking-the-small-group-tightrope-chapter-2-the-development-challenge/#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator>Antwuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Apr 2006 22:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a struggle of mine as well.  I think I tend to fall more on the teaching side.  I really have to ask God to help me SHOW a more compassionate side.  I do often empathize with situations (both good and bad) but I am a very... shut in kind of person.  I don&#039;t emote often.  Well, really, I don&#039;t emote publicly, often.  I don&#039;t know, it seems that I am more head hence the teaching) than heart (emotional).  It even gets to the point that I really, REALLY want to show that I care, but it just feels so unnatural.  

I am not sure where it all started, because as a child I was was VERY emotional... cried at the drop of a hat.  (Really, it was rather pathetic :) )  Somewhere along the lines of life, I began to respond to situations mentally.  Maybe because it is more safe, less vulnerable.  But I can&#039;t break the trend.  I hate it sometimes.  As a result, I think that my leadership has often been more heady as well.

Our lifegroup does an okay job of balancing caring and teaching.  We have a large group, and frankly, my schedule makes it very difficult to get entangled in their lives, as much as I&#039;d like to.  I am praying that God will open my schedule so that I can have more time to connect to them away from home.  In my situation, I think between my schedule and my own insecurities, I am my own enemy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a struggle of mine as well.  I think I tend to fall more on the teaching side.  I really have to ask God to help me SHOW a more compassionate side.  I do often empathize with situations (both good and bad) but I am a very&#8230; shut in kind of person.  I don&#8217;t emote often.  Well, really, I don&#8217;t emote publicly, often.  I don&#8217;t know, it seems that I am more head hence the teaching) than heart (emotional).  It even gets to the point that I really, REALLY want to show that I care, but it just feels so unnatural.  </p>
<p>I am not sure where it all started, because as a child I was was VERY emotional&#8230; cried at the drop of a hat.  (Really, it was rather pathetic <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  )  Somewhere along the lines of life, I began to respond to situations mentally.  Maybe because it is more safe, less vulnerable.  But I can&#8217;t break the trend.  I hate it sometimes.  As a result, I think that my leadership has often been more heady as well.</p>
<p>Our lifegroup does an okay job of balancing caring and teaching.  We have a large group, and frankly, my schedule makes it very difficult to get entangled in their lives, as much as I&#8217;d like to.  I am praying that God will open my schedule so that I can have more time to connect to them away from home.  In my situation, I think between my schedule and my own insecurities, I am my own enemy.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Walking the Small Group Tightrope &#8211; Chapter 2 &#8211; The Development Challenge by Allen Arnn</title>
		<link>http://lifegroups.wordpress.com/2006/04/07/walking-the-small-group-tightrope-chapter-2-the-development-challenge/#comment-12</link>
		<dc:creator>Allen Arnn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Apr 2006 17:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you been in or led a group where you felt out of balance between discipleship and care?

We had a group a few years ago that really was just focused on doing a study together.  We came to the point one night where we had to ask ourselves, “What are we doing?”  We were doing the study material but we weren’t hanging out together or contacting each other through the week.  We weren’t caring for each other much at all.  We came together and decided to make a change.  Even when you decide to care it still takes time to really become a caring group.  That group never quite made it to caring… but my next LifeGroup did make it there partly because of the experiences in the other group.


Which quadrant of that diagram are you biased toward and best at – teaching or nurturing?  
I tend to fall a little bit toward the caring side.  I resonate with the statement that “people don’t care what you know until they know how much you care.”  As I think about balancing teaching and nurturing in a LifeGroup, I probably need to find and empower a person in the group to champion the grow purpose in order to balance my natural tendency to focus on care, connect and serve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you been in or led a group where you felt out of balance between discipleship and care?</p>
<p>We had a group a few years ago that really was just focused on doing a study together.  We came to the point one night where we had to ask ourselves, “What are we doing?”  We were doing the study material but we weren’t hanging out together or contacting each other through the week.  We weren’t caring for each other much at all.  We came together and decided to make a change.  Even when you decide to care it still takes time to really become a caring group.  That group never quite made it to caring… but my next LifeGroup did make it there partly because of the experiences in the other group.</p>
<p>Which quadrant of that diagram are you biased toward and best at – teaching or nurturing?<br />
I tend to fall a little bit toward the caring side.  I resonate with the statement that “people don’t care what you know until they know how much you care.”  As I think about balancing teaching and nurturing in a LifeGroup, I probably need to find and empower a person in the group to champion the grow purpose in order to balance my natural tendency to focus on care, connect and serve.</p>
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		<title>Comment on My Story: Allen by Tammy</title>
		<link>http://lifegroups.wordpress.com/2006/04/04/my-story-allen/#comment-11</link>
		<dc:creator>Tammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Apr 2006 03:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Allen, I love your story about the rope. I think about that scripture from John 15:5 which says &quot;I am the vine (rope); you are the branches. If a man remains in me (or clings or holds onto me) and I in him, he will bear much fruit; apart from me (holding on to your own rope) you can do nothing.&quot;
I get to daily watch you and benefit personally from all the fruit you are bearing.  What a privilege and blessing God has given me to share life with you and your sweet family!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Allen, I love your story about the rope. I think about that scripture from John 15:5 which says &#8220;I am the vine (rope); you are the branches. If a man remains in me (or clings or holds onto me) and I in him, he will bear much fruit; apart from me (holding on to your own rope) you can do nothing.&#8221;<br />
I get to daily watch you and benefit personally from all the fruit you are bearing.  What a privilege and blessing God has given me to share life with you and your sweet family!!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Walking the Small Group Tightrope &#8211; Chap. 1 &#8216;The learning challenge&#8217; by Tammy</title>
		<link>http://lifegroups.wordpress.com/2006/03/30/walking-the-small-group-tightrope-chap-1-the-learning-challenge/#comment-10</link>
		<dc:creator>Tammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Apr 2006 02:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mickey, I&#039;m with you.  God is really using this book to speak to me about &quot;leading&quot; in a way that manages the &quot;polarity&quot; or balance of all the life situations that challenge me.  That includes not only my LifeGroup, my friends and family, but my own personal life.  As the apostle Paul has always been my hero, modeling his agape love relationship with the New Testament churches has become an example for me to use as comparison. Loving someone or a group &quot;in their own best interest&quot;, the way God loves us, means that leading will often require us to deal with confrontational and difficult situations.  Since in my natural self I&#039;m confrontational avoidant, I have to rely on the Holy Spirit to give me the strength, wisdom and Godly insight that those situations require.  

Looking at my relationship with Christ, His example, and the need for radical transformation in my life in order to be who God wants me to be, means that sometimes instead of getting chocolate, God serves up a heaping helping of broccoli.  I&#039;d rather eat chocolate, but God knows the broccoli is &quot;good&quot; for me and what I need at the moment. OK, and sometimes He gives me chocolate!!! Again, it&#039;s the BALANCE of the two that reflects His incredible and incomparable love for us.  
I think personally, it&#039;s being ok with living with that tension, the pull to one side or the other, the need to act using Godly wisdom that requires me to be on my knees seeking His face--and that&#039;s a good thing!! 
I love it when the author says &quot;Once you recognize the benefits of holding two good things in tension, your future gets a little easier to manage.  Instead of fighting the tension, you can use it to your advantage. Managing tension keeps things in balance...Like walking a tightrope, balancing these tensions can be exhilarating and dynamic&quot;. 

One of the things I love about God is the ADVENTURE we get to be a part of...so let&#039;s pack our bags, get on board and ride it out. Even with the ups and downs, it&#039;s going to be a blast and definately NEVER boring!!! Thank you God for the chocolate and the broccoli!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mickey, I&#8217;m with you.  God is really using this book to speak to me about &#8220;leading&#8221; in a way that manages the &#8220;polarity&#8221; or balance of all the life situations that challenge me.  That includes not only my LifeGroup, my friends and family, but my own personal life.  As the apostle Paul has always been my hero, modeling his agape love relationship with the New Testament churches has become an example for me to use as comparison. Loving someone or a group &#8220;in their own best interest&#8221;, the way God loves us, means that leading will often require us to deal with confrontational and difficult situations.  Since in my natural self I&#8217;m confrontational avoidant, I have to rely on the Holy Spirit to give me the strength, wisdom and Godly insight that those situations require.  </p>
<p>Looking at my relationship with Christ, His example, and the need for radical transformation in my life in order to be who God wants me to be, means that sometimes instead of getting chocolate, God serves up a heaping helping of broccoli.  I&#8217;d rather eat chocolate, but God knows the broccoli is &#8220;good&#8221; for me and what I need at the moment. OK, and sometimes He gives me chocolate!!! Again, it&#8217;s the BALANCE of the two that reflects His incredible and incomparable love for us.<br />
I think personally, it&#8217;s being ok with living with that tension, the pull to one side or the other, the need to act using Godly wisdom that requires me to be on my knees seeking His face&#8211;and that&#8217;s a good thing!!<br />
I love it when the author says &#8220;Once you recognize the benefits of holding two good things in tension, your future gets a little easier to manage.  Instead of fighting the tension, you can use it to your advantage. Managing tension keeps things in balance&#8230;Like walking a tightrope, balancing these tensions can be exhilarating and dynamic&#8221;. </p>
<p>One of the things I love about God is the ADVENTURE we get to be a part of&#8230;so let&#8217;s pack our bags, get on board and ride it out. Even with the ups and downs, it&#8217;s going to be a blast and definately NEVER boring!!! Thank you God for the chocolate and the broccoli!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Walking the Small Group Tightrope &#8211; Chap. 1 &#8216;The learning challenge&#8217; by Antwuan</title>
		<link>http://lifegroups.wordpress.com/2006/03/30/walking-the-small-group-tightrope-chap-1-the-learning-challenge/#comment-9</link>
		<dc:creator>Antwuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Apr 2006 17:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a good question.  I wonder how long it took him to come up with the Good Samaritan?  Hmm.  

There is so much of God all around us that I suppose all we really need is to ask God to show himself to us through our environment.  Perhaps that is what Jesus was good at, finding God in life&#039;s situations, maybe that&#039;s why he had so many stories so handy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a good question.  I wonder how long it took him to come up with the Good Samaritan?  Hmm.  </p>
<p>There is so much of God all around us that I suppose all we really need is to ask God to show himself to us through our environment.  Perhaps that is what Jesus was good at, finding God in life&#8217;s situations, maybe that&#8217;s why he had so many stories so handy.</p>
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		<title>Comment on My Story: Allen by Allen Arnn</title>
		<link>http://lifegroups.wordpress.com/2006/04/04/my-story-allen/#comment-8</link>
		<dc:creator>Allen Arnn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Apr 2006 17:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Antwuan, I&#039;ll look forward to hearing your story sometime soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Antwuan, I&#8217;ll look forward to hearing your story sometime soon.</p>
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		<title>Comment on My Story: Allen by Antwuan</title>
		<link>http://lifegroups.wordpress.com/2006/04/04/my-story-allen/#comment-7</link>
		<dc:creator>Antwuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Apr 2006 17:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, I have a very similar story.  It&#039;s amazing to think back and see how God move here and there to get us where we are now.  

Thanks for sharing Allen, I was encouraged.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, I have a very similar story.  It&#8217;s amazing to think back and see how God move here and there to get us where we are now.  </p>
<p>Thanks for sharing Allen, I was encouraged.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Walking the Small Group Tightrope &#8211; Chap. 1 &#8216;The learning challenge&#8217; by Mickey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mickey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Apr 2006 16:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark and Allen, you picked a great read for all of us.  The concept of the balance between truth and life to find transformation is key to us becoming pastors in our life group and to our life groups seeing fruit.  Lots of people walk away from small group type things saying all they talked about was the bible or all they talked about was their problems and when that happens that person has missed an opportunity because the leader has missed an opportunity.  Balance, as the book guides, is key to leading people to see the point of why we do what we do with life groups.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark and Allen, you picked a great read for all of us.  The concept of the balance between truth and life to find transformation is key to us becoming pastors in our life group and to our life groups seeing fruit.  Lots of people walk away from small group type things saying all they talked about was the bible or all they talked about was their problems and when that happens that person has missed an opportunity because the leader has missed an opportunity.  Balance, as the book guides, is key to leading people to see the point of why we do what we do with life groups.</p>
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